I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed attending the conference and the trip yesterday. I would like to thank Ms Hudrea for inviting me to be the guest speaker and participate in the conference.The conference was a valuable learning experience for me. I heard some very good ideas and saw some excellent presentations. Congratulations to everyone.I enjoyed meeting everyone from all the different countries and was so impressed how everyone worked together on the business plan workshop.It was a great pleasure for me to be there with you and be a part of such a successful conference.
My Best Wishes to Everyone
Beverley Killeen
Thursday, June 4, 2009
Alasdair, France
Hello everybody
The team from Chambery has now returned home after attending a wonderful conference.
A big thank you to Mariana for putting in so much to the organization.
I loved the presentations, the festive dinner and all the visits you prepared for us.
All the students also made a great effort to make the event a success.
I had the chance to speak at length to my two pupils Lea and Julie during the journey home and I can assure you they gained so much and had an unforgettable experience. They are planning to present our activities to their classmates tomorrow and will certainly do so with enthusiasm.
Well done Mariana once again!
I have started working on the sythesis of the results that students from our 6 countries prepared last Friday.
I will send it to everybody as soon as it's ready.
Best wishes and my kindest regards to all.
Alasdair
The team from Chambery has now returned home after attending a wonderful conference.
A big thank you to Mariana for putting in so much to the organization.
I loved the presentations, the festive dinner and all the visits you prepared for us.
All the students also made a great effort to make the event a success.
I had the chance to speak at length to my two pupils Lea and Julie during the journey home and I can assure you they gained so much and had an unforgettable experience. They are planning to present our activities to their classmates tomorrow and will certainly do so with enthusiasm.
Well done Mariana once again!
I have started working on the sythesis of the results that students from our 6 countries prepared last Friday.
I will send it to everybody as soon as it's ready.
Best wishes and my kindest regards to all.
Alasdair
Jola, Poland
Dear Mariana, dear All,
the team from Poland has arrived safe after a 10 hour journey by car. We were welcome by sunny weather :) in the Tatra mountains.
A big thank you to Mariana for organizing such an interesting conference for all of us and all other colleagues with whom we had a pleasure to work with.
A visit to Maramures was unforgettable and today I could show the lovely photos I took while in Romania.Thank you Mariana for all your effort you put in organizing our meeting.
I would also like the express special thanks to Romanian families who hosted Polish students and who gave them such a warm welcome.
Best wishes to all of you.
Jola, Poland
the team from Poland has arrived safe after a 10 hour journey by car. We were welcome by sunny weather :) in the Tatra mountains.
A big thank you to Mariana for organizing such an interesting conference for all of us and all other colleagues with whom we had a pleasure to work with.
A visit to Maramures was unforgettable and today I could show the lovely photos I took while in Romania.Thank you Mariana for all your effort you put in organizing our meeting.
I would also like the express special thanks to Romanian families who hosted Polish students and who gave them such a warm welcome.
Best wishes to all of you.
Jola, Poland
Feedback Petruta
I want to start by congratulating all the participants for the effort and for the hard work they put into the project. Every single presentation was special and important for us. In the first place we’ve practiced our English and social skills. We have realized the importance of the 8 key competences for a better integration on the labor market. To be honest, I never thought that a project reunion can be so interesting and so full of special events. What I liked the most was the fact that the activities were combined. Serious activities, I mean that all the participants presented their work with relaxing activities like the festive dinner, in which we could speak with each other and discover new mentalities and new lifestyles. It was very nice that during the lunch breaks we all went to eat together. We managed to find out new things about other cultures and we’ve made a lot of friends. I want to thank everyone for being so nice and so open, for me it was a lot better that I expected.I felt like we were all part of a big family, like we’ve met a long time ago and now we are good friends. The atmosphere was relaxed. I liked because I didn’t feel like I was at a conference where everybody is serious, I felt like I was among friends and I liked that everyone smiled. In the same time we found out the problems that immigrants face when they are moving to another country. They have a lot of problems and we have to do our best in order to help them to integrate better. We also found out that the relationship between parents, children and school is very important. My relationship with my parents it’s a good one, I’m lucky from this point of view. I was very surprised to notice that despite the differences that exist between us we have a lot of things in common. For example a girl from Germany said that our national costume is very similar with their costume. We have the same age, the same objectives in life and the same problems. It was the most beautiful experience that I had in my life so far, and I would never forget these days. Thank you for that! And I want to thank Ms. Hudrea from my heart because she invited us to take part in this special event. Without her I would not have lived these moments unforgettable. Thank you! Boga Petruta 11E
Monday, May 25, 2009
Project Reunion and Conference
On 27-30 May we organize the International Conference on Key Competences - Globalization and Labour Market Integration.
126 participants from Estonia, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Romania and Turkey will take part in it.
The activities will be organized at Petre Dulfu County Library and the Mara Hotel.
On Saturday a sightseeing tour of Maramures will offer the participants the opportunity to discover the spiritual and natural beauties of the people from this part of Europe.
126 participants from Estonia, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Romania and Turkey will take part in it.
The activities will be organized at Petre Dulfu County Library and the Mara Hotel.
On Saturday a sightseeing tour of Maramures will offer the participants the opportunity to discover the spiritual and natural beauties of the people from this part of Europe.
Tuesday, February 10, 2009
It´s a free world: comments by the German students
In my opinon the movie shows how people from the rich countries trifle with people living in a poor country. Angie is typical of such people. It seems that she has no consience and no fear of losing everything, like her little son Jamie. She doesn´t care for people, is only interested in her own profit. Furthermore the movie shows the life of families, who escape from their homecountries and hope to find a job in the new country. They are living in bad homes and it´s their last chance to find work.
Adelina Steer
I couldn't see the beginning of the film but I'm of the opinion that Angie is a very ruthless woman. When she speaks with her father she disclaims the danger in which she is. Her father wants to appeal to her conscience but she doesn't want to hear that her job isn't a good job. She endangers her son when the Polish men don't get their money. But after that moment she knows in which danger she and her son are. I think she underestimates the job and the danger in the whole film.
Anna-Lena Kahle
In my point of view this film shows us the difficulties of immigrants to find a job. Most of the men coming to Angie have a go to get a job. But the problem is that there are more people than jobs. Many people have to go because they were too late and all jobs were assigned or they have no passports. On the one hand I think Angie does good things and it is hard for her to say to the men that she can't give everyone a job. But she has to decide who is gets work. I think it is fair to say that those who are too late do not get work. On the other hand, there is her family. She neglects her duty because she does not look after her son. And there she makes a big mistake. She shouldn’t help other people and forget her own child.
All in all I think Angie does a god job and I think she shows us a very human side to help immigrated people without passport, but there is also another side which is bad. She does not think about the life of her son and the life of the Polish man; the man loses his heart to her. She plays with his emotions. In my opinion the film delivers insight into the world of immigrant men trying to support themselves and their family. I think that this should not the task of Angie but rather of the government.
Christian Galert
I would like to write a comment on Ken Loach’s movie “It’s a Free World” which I saw two weeks ago with our Comenius class. At first I would just like to give you some of my impressions. In the beginning of the film I was quite impressed by Angie, the protagonist, since she seemed to be such a self-confident, witty and successful woman although I had been told by those having already seen the film that this rather sympathetic girl was about to end up as a criminal exploiter. The first thing that really surprised me about her was the fact that she had “parked” her child at her parents’ place without noticing what is going on in his life. At this point it became quite clear to me that there had to be something wrong with the way Angie was choosing her priorities.
Nevertheless I didn’t feel any estrangement during this time of the film; I even started to develop more compassion for her fate, because I got the feeling that she might be the one suffering from her lack of virtues at least as much as the people around her. But as the plot went on, I began to realize the destructive power lying in Angie’s intentions. As she was treating the workers more and more ruthlessly, I recognized that the negative aspects I had just expected to be only some of her more undesirable character traits had actually been the first part of a big, negative development of her entire personality. Having noticed that, I did not feel confused about her further actions any more but I was fascinated by the increasing speed of her personality’s development seemingly caused not only by the structure of her personality but also by the situation she was dealing with and the system of society.
What impressed me about the film was especially the connection between certain kinds of people and the capitalistic system. The film showed how much some structures in society are supported by people who have already suffered from them. What disappointed me was the missing solution in the end. Angie did not learn anything; her attitude towards her workers seemed to become even worse. I would have really liked to see how illegal workers have a chance to become a part of Angie’s society.
Esther Klann
Angie, the main character of this movie, is a very self-confident woman. She does what she wants to do and she seems to be a bit domineering because for example Rose does nearly always what Angie wants, also when she thinks it’s wrong. Nearly everything she does is self-serving. She helps the workers to get money on her own and she doesn’t help them to get a job or to get a better life, only to help herself.
At first she is always very strict with her workers, for example those who have no identification get no job, and neither does she care for the destiny of her workers. She hasn’t got any pity with them when they tell her their destinies. When she gets to know that they were hurt at work or lost a child she isn’t really impressed. In her view this isn’t her problem. But when they kidnap Jamie, she starts to think for a while because she realizes what it means to lose a child. So she gives to the workers what they want to have. She also shows some feelings when she helps the family who has to hide themselves by providing some false identification.
So it seems Angie learns from the things she does and that she changes, but in the end you can see she hasn’t really learned from it, because she doesn’t stop to place immigrant workers with firms and she is still self-serving when she takes money from a woman who needs her help. Also, she cares more for the workers than for her son. Jamie has got many problems but Angie doesn’t care. The only person who cares for Jamie is her grandfather. He also tries to convince Angie to search another job for her and to care more about her son. She loves Jamie but her job is more important for her. All in all you can say that Angie is a character who changes during the movie, she gets more and more calculating and the workers are only a way for her to get money.
Jasmina Tews
In my opinion, “It’s a free world“, directed by Ken Loach, is a good movie about the controversial topic of immigrant workers. A very important aspect of this film is the protagonists’ behaviour towards her family and friends on the one hand and towards the workers on the other hand. The question one has to ask when dealing with this topic is: When does the recruitment end and the traffic in human beings begin? Angie, whose parents are representatives of the working class, crosses this line at an early point. She starts with legal workers but soon wants more, begins to break the law and finds herself between two fronts. Her problems begin when the factory bosses refuse to pay for the work and the labourers make her responsible for their misery. Angie and her son Jamie are in danger.
In the course of the movie, she is getting more and more scrupulous. At a certain point even her friend Rose abandons Angie because of her terrible behaviour. The low point of her fall is when she betrays the inhabitants of a camp of illegal workers to the immigration authorities to make room for her own workers. Ironically, she extradites an Iranian family who she helped before, in my opinion the only really good thing she did.
Angie is an ambiguous character. In the beginning, I could understand her will to be successful in her business, but I got shocked again and again about the things she is willing to do to reach her aim. She neglects her son Jamie, who is not a well-looked after child, and hurts her father, who worked honestly for 40 years by saying that she does not want to be like him. He cannot understand his daughters’ callous work and tries to make her change her mind. When Angie’s son is kidnapped and she is attacked by furious workers in her own house, I expected that she would see her mistakes and would stop her work, but she does not. In the end, it becomes clear that nothing has changed in her mind.
Sarah Waldhauer
"It's a free world" is a very shocking and interesting movie, because it´s real. This movie shows us what happens every day in our countries. I know that this is an important theme, but I must say that I never saw a problem like this in my life. But the message of the movie is clear: Our countries have to change something! So this movie impressed me although it was a very sad one, because no one likes to see real dramatic facts of life presented in movies, through its plot, presentation and cast. I think it really deserves all the prizes it has got.
Sascha Remus
In my opinion Angie doesn’t really care about the workers, but it is an easy way to earn money. Moreover she doesn’t really care about the feelings of other people and doesn’t treat the workers very well. Instead of solving her own problems, she just ignores them. On the one hand that works for a short period, but on the other hand it doesn’t help her with her own problems but lets them become bigger.
The movie “It’s a free world” shows the difficulties of being an immigrant and is very helpful to understand the situation those people are in and what feelings they have. It also gives an impression how foreigners are treated in our society and everybody who watches it is confronted with the awful reality.
Angie is an example for the other point of view. She makes it obvious that not just immigrants have problems finding a job in these days. The everyday situation in our society, in which many people are without work, concerns everybody.
As a conclusion one can say that the movie deals with an issue which is very important and also shows different points of view. We should change some things in our society and should not grow apart. It shouldn’t matter what country we were born in or what language we speak best. Prejudices should be questioned by everybody. In my opinion that would be the only way to change things and that’s also the reason why I would warmly recommend everybody to watch movies like “It’s a free world”.
Saskia Sack
The theme of this film is capitalism. It's a little confusing that Ken Loach, the director of the film, takes Angie as the protagonist of the film. Because ruthless capitalism is mostly connected to big firms, which exploit their workers. But Ken Loach takes Angie, a mother without much money and also at first without the possibility to exploit asylum-seekers. But he shows in this film, how Angie changes her character from a woman who feels with the asylum-seekers to a woman who exploits them, only because she wants to earn more money. So he shows the way to become a capitalist person. And also how the lust for money can change the character.
Lukas Thum
My opinion is that Angie is a corrupt person who doesn't see the problems of the immigrants and only thinks about the money and the new business she created. Furthermore she disrespects the immigrants, for example, she shouts at the workers and “crams” them into a van. I think she does that because of her last job in Poland. There she had no good experiences with men. She doesn't care about her son Jamie because she is working all the time, so he must often stay at his grandparents'. Another aspect is that she calls the police to clear a little colony where immigrants live. This shows that she only thinks about her job and not about the people. My opinion on the whole film is that the plot is close to the truth. The idea to establish a business for helping immigrants to find work is a good idea because in reality immigrants mostly come to a country for a better life and a better job, but often they get no, or a bad job.
Nils Düppers
In my opinon the movie shows how people from the rich countries trifle with people living in a poor country. Angie is typical of such people. It seems that she has no consience and no fear of losing everything, like her little son Jamie. She doesn´t care for people, is only interested in her own profit. Furthermore the movie shows the life of families, who escape from their homecountries and hope to find a job in the new country. They are living in bad homes and it´s their last chance to find work.
Adelina Steer
I couldn't see the beginning of the film but I'm of the opinion that Angie is a very ruthless woman. When she speaks with her father she disclaims the danger in which she is. Her father wants to appeal to her conscience but she doesn't want to hear that her job isn't a good job. She endangers her son when the Polish men don't get their money. But after that moment she knows in which danger she and her son are. I think she underestimates the job and the danger in the whole film.
Anna-Lena Kahle
In my point of view this film shows us the difficulties of immigrants to find a job. Most of the men coming to Angie have a go to get a job. But the problem is that there are more people than jobs. Many people have to go because they were too late and all jobs were assigned or they have no passports. On the one hand I think Angie does good things and it is hard for her to say to the men that she can't give everyone a job. But she has to decide who is gets work. I think it is fair to say that those who are too late do not get work. On the other hand, there is her family. She neglects her duty because she does not look after her son. And there she makes a big mistake. She shouldn’t help other people and forget her own child.
All in all I think Angie does a god job and I think she shows us a very human side to help immigrated people without passport, but there is also another side which is bad. She does not think about the life of her son and the life of the Polish man; the man loses his heart to her. She plays with his emotions. In my opinion the film delivers insight into the world of immigrant men trying to support themselves and their family. I think that this should not the task of Angie but rather of the government.
Christian Galert
I would like to write a comment on Ken Loach’s movie “It’s a Free World” which I saw two weeks ago with our Comenius class. At first I would just like to give you some of my impressions. In the beginning of the film I was quite impressed by Angie, the protagonist, since she seemed to be such a self-confident, witty and successful woman although I had been told by those having already seen the film that this rather sympathetic girl was about to end up as a criminal exploiter. The first thing that really surprised me about her was the fact that she had “parked” her child at her parents’ place without noticing what is going on in his life. At this point it became quite clear to me that there had to be something wrong with the way Angie was choosing her priorities.
Nevertheless I didn’t feel any estrangement during this time of the film; I even started to develop more compassion for her fate, because I got the feeling that she might be the one suffering from her lack of virtues at least as much as the people around her. But as the plot went on, I began to realize the destructive power lying in Angie’s intentions. As she was treating the workers more and more ruthlessly, I recognized that the negative aspects I had just expected to be only some of her more undesirable character traits had actually been the first part of a big, negative development of her entire personality. Having noticed that, I did not feel confused about her further actions any more but I was fascinated by the increasing speed of her personality’s development seemingly caused not only by the structure of her personality but also by the situation she was dealing with and the system of society.
What impressed me about the film was especially the connection between certain kinds of people and the capitalistic system. The film showed how much some structures in society are supported by people who have already suffered from them. What disappointed me was the missing solution in the end. Angie did not learn anything; her attitude towards her workers seemed to become even worse. I would have really liked to see how illegal workers have a chance to become a part of Angie’s society.
Esther Klann
Angie, the main character of this movie, is a very self-confident woman. She does what she wants to do and she seems to be a bit domineering because for example Rose does nearly always what Angie wants, also when she thinks it’s wrong. Nearly everything she does is self-serving. She helps the workers to get money on her own and she doesn’t help them to get a job or to get a better life, only to help herself.
At first she is always very strict with her workers, for example those who have no identification get no job, and neither does she care for the destiny of her workers. She hasn’t got any pity with them when they tell her their destinies. When she gets to know that they were hurt at work or lost a child she isn’t really impressed. In her view this isn’t her problem. But when they kidnap Jamie, she starts to think for a while because she realizes what it means to lose a child. So she gives to the workers what they want to have. She also shows some feelings when she helps the family who has to hide themselves by providing some false identification.
So it seems Angie learns from the things she does and that she changes, but in the end you can see she hasn’t really learned from it, because she doesn’t stop to place immigrant workers with firms and she is still self-serving when she takes money from a woman who needs her help. Also, she cares more for the workers than for her son. Jamie has got many problems but Angie doesn’t care. The only person who cares for Jamie is her grandfather. He also tries to convince Angie to search another job for her and to care more about her son. She loves Jamie but her job is more important for her. All in all you can say that Angie is a character who changes during the movie, she gets more and more calculating and the workers are only a way for her to get money.
Jasmina Tews
In my opinion, “It’s a free world“, directed by Ken Loach, is a good movie about the controversial topic of immigrant workers. A very important aspect of this film is the protagonists’ behaviour towards her family and friends on the one hand and towards the workers on the other hand. The question one has to ask when dealing with this topic is: When does the recruitment end and the traffic in human beings begin? Angie, whose parents are representatives of the working class, crosses this line at an early point. She starts with legal workers but soon wants more, begins to break the law and finds herself between two fronts. Her problems begin when the factory bosses refuse to pay for the work and the labourers make her responsible for their misery. Angie and her son Jamie are in danger.
In the course of the movie, she is getting more and more scrupulous. At a certain point even her friend Rose abandons Angie because of her terrible behaviour. The low point of her fall is when she betrays the inhabitants of a camp of illegal workers to the immigration authorities to make room for her own workers. Ironically, she extradites an Iranian family who she helped before, in my opinion the only really good thing she did.
Angie is an ambiguous character. In the beginning, I could understand her will to be successful in her business, but I got shocked again and again about the things she is willing to do to reach her aim. She neglects her son Jamie, who is not a well-looked after child, and hurts her father, who worked honestly for 40 years by saying that she does not want to be like him. He cannot understand his daughters’ callous work and tries to make her change her mind. When Angie’s son is kidnapped and she is attacked by furious workers in her own house, I expected that she would see her mistakes and would stop her work, but she does not. In the end, it becomes clear that nothing has changed in her mind.
Sarah Waldhauer
"It's a free world" is a very shocking and interesting movie, because it´s real. This movie shows us what happens every day in our countries. I know that this is an important theme, but I must say that I never saw a problem like this in my life. But the message of the movie is clear: Our countries have to change something! So this movie impressed me although it was a very sad one, because no one likes to see real dramatic facts of life presented in movies, through its plot, presentation and cast. I think it really deserves all the prizes it has got.
Sascha Remus
In my opinion Angie doesn’t really care about the workers, but it is an easy way to earn money. Moreover she doesn’t really care about the feelings of other people and doesn’t treat the workers very well. Instead of solving her own problems, she just ignores them. On the one hand that works for a short period, but on the other hand it doesn’t help her with her own problems but lets them become bigger.
The movie “It’s a free world” shows the difficulties of being an immigrant and is very helpful to understand the situation those people are in and what feelings they have. It also gives an impression how foreigners are treated in our society and everybody who watches it is confronted with the awful reality.
Angie is an example for the other point of view. She makes it obvious that not just immigrants have problems finding a job in these days. The everyday situation in our society, in which many people are without work, concerns everybody.
As a conclusion one can say that the movie deals with an issue which is very important and also shows different points of view. We should change some things in our society and should not grow apart. It shouldn’t matter what country we were born in or what language we speak best. Prejudices should be questioned by everybody. In my opinion that would be the only way to change things and that’s also the reason why I would warmly recommend everybody to watch movies like “It’s a free world”.
Saskia Sack
The theme of this film is capitalism. It's a little confusing that Ken Loach, the director of the film, takes Angie as the protagonist of the film. Because ruthless capitalism is mostly connected to big firms, which exploit their workers. But Ken Loach takes Angie, a mother without much money and also at first without the possibility to exploit asylum-seekers. But he shows in this film, how Angie changes her character from a woman who feels with the asylum-seekers to a woman who exploits them, only because she wants to earn more money. So he shows the way to become a capitalist person. And also how the lust for money can change the character.
Lukas Thum
My opinion is that Angie is a corrupt person who doesn't see the problems of the immigrants and only thinks about the money and the new business she created. Furthermore she disrespects the immigrants, for example, she shouts at the workers and “crams” them into a van. I think she does that because of her last job in Poland. There she had no good experiences with men. She doesn't care about her son Jamie because she is working all the time, so he must often stay at his grandparents'. Another aspect is that she calls the police to clear a little colony where immigrants live. This shows that she only thinks about her job and not about the people. My opinion on the whole film is that the plot is close to the truth. The idea to establish a business for helping immigrants to find work is a good idea because in reality immigrants mostly come to a country for a better life and a better job, but often they get no, or a bad job.
Nils Düppers
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Lise Mailland's impressions of 'It's a Free World'
It’s a Free World
The film begins with the main subject: recruitment. It takes place in Poland, where Angie (the main character) recruits people for her firm, called ‘Core Force Recruitment’. Then, still in
In Poland, she met a Polish worker who manages to come to the UK. During the film, we learn that they are together but for Angie, this situation is not good because she has not enough time to stay with him.
She feels fed up with the way workers are treated: she knows that recruiting agencies don’t care if workers have papers or not. Besides, she is sick of being ordered by her boss and earning very little money that’s why she decides to set up her own business, managing a temporary job agency. She starts this agency with her friend Rose. Her parents disagree with her job because they would like her to have a secure job (she has actually changed her job many times) to take care of her only child. But she does not care about what they said and established her office in her flat and the agency in a friend’s pub.
So workers start to come early in the morning and the meeting point is in the yard behind the pub. If people arrive too late, or if they don’t have the right physique, then they she refuses them. In this way, she is becoming greedier and greedier: she manages to earn money by renting rooms to workers and not giving them their salary at the end of the month. The more she does not pay them, the more she gets into trouble. Her son gets caught up by the Polish workers who only want to get their money. They threaten to hurt her child if she does not pay them. They accuse her of keeping the money she owes them (and they find it) instead of paying the workers.
But, at the same time, she meets an Iranian family: she wants to help them because they are refugees and are afraid of being picked up by the police. Nevertheless, this period lasts very little time. It ends because a lot of her employees are refugees. She always wants to earn more and more money and does not care about how she does it, that’s why her friend Rose disagrees with these choices and they argue. Angie stills continue the business but Rose stops.
Later, she does not hesitate to denounce a refugee’s camp in order to get the camp back and to transform it into a place where her workers can live, without forgetting the work conditions.
At the end of the film, we can see that Angie is in the same situation as at the beginning: the scene is the same, with her own firm ‘Angie’s recruitment’ with a rainbow. The thing which has changed is the fact that she is alone instead of working with Rose and that she is independent, because it is her own business.
Debate: during the debate, we talked about the problems of refugees. We also talked about their living conditions: they are treated as slaves since they have little money and bad flats. The two women belong to Amnesty International, an association which takes care of the refugees and helps them to obtain the papers they need to stay in
This debate was interesting because many people talked: students and teachers (for instance the Romanian teacher Mariana who talked about her own experience) and the subject is very topical nowadays. Even if few people are interested in this situation, they should be aware of it.
Unfortunately, to my mind, the debate was too short.
I really enjoyed watching this film. It was interesting because thanks to films like this we can see the world as it really is. Refugees take great risks to reach our countries and their lives are not a bed of roses once they arrive! I find this theme should be spoken about more because the problem is getting worse and people don’t care enough about it.
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